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May be too soon to say the PS4 won't have DRM. Looks like it is up to the 3rd party Dev. But the Sony Dev. will be DRM free.....

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Let me know how to do the table thing once you have it set Martini. Would like to try to do that for the second post.

Pros and cons in no particular order. (all is up for debate)

XB One - Pros

Being able to say you have an "xbone"
Achievements continue/carry over
NFL exclusive stuff
Xbox Live
Sharing...

Alright…so here it is…the thread they were afraid would happen. :P

So the purpose of this thread is to really pick apart both systems. It is really for people like Ender, Rooney, Vcize, Tbad...

3 great games to add to the Plus list.

Really liked Zero Escape: Virtue’s Last Reward. More a visual novel than a game. Cool story/idea.

I'll believe it when I see it.

As much as I would like this, they said the same about the PSP and PS3 before that launch.

Or a vita....

So basically it is a way to purchase games for your friends then. Interesting.

Oh...it is a game....thought you were talking about yourself in this thread Vdub. :)

:rofl:

So correct me if I am wrong....but can't you trade/gift your games on steam?

I think the fact that Microsoft can't/won't out right say what the deal is with always connected or not, is a bad PR move after the Adam Orth incident.

I think that both consoles need a healthy dose of picking apart. They are launching in the same time frame. Most people don't have, or don't want to spend that kind of money, to get both at the...

Sorry was in a hurry when I posted. As Jingle said, they get you some spells. Not sure how long the codes are good for.

Codes

P5CJ-PNNL-R79C

C7DE-37NA-758R

Q9GJ-BTNL-CEB5

4R7F-QENE-CD4L

Silly Ender, you can't have L4D for free....

Loved playing that mode. And those maps do look familiar.

Wow Hostile angry much?

you might want to do a better job of backing up your 'fanboy' accusations, than the posts you chose. Not one of those posts by fish were 'fanboyish' you came into this...

Picked up PS+ when it included the vita. Has been great for that alone. I think it was one of the smartest things Sony could have done. If they keep it for the PS4 it will help sell systems.
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Anyone download this?

Perhaps your priorities are not the same....

In game go to Network > Peddler > Claim Gift

that is where the DLC is after putting in the code on the PSN store

Ummm...this isn't demon soul you know....

Which two?

I think level 4 is what I read the damage will go up. But not in the Demo.