RB6:3 Black Arrow

[soul embrace]

OXM's september mag. reviewed black arrow and they gave it a 7.9 ?
i haven't read it all but it said the graphics wasn't bad but could be better.
also it sounds like they reviewed it totally on the single player, it said SP was ok but what i saw it sounds like the like the MP.
got to go to the dentist will read it when i get beack and let ya know the rest of their thought.

[Moefugger]

wtf? Didn't they give Rainbow Six 3 a better rating then that? How could that be?

[Moefugger]

Also, I've been checking out everything I can find on the status of this thing. Has this thing gone gold yet? I would imagine it would have to be gold by now, if nor real soon in order to meet the ship date.

[Anonymous]

wtf? Didn't they give Rainbow Six 3 a better rating then that? How could that be?


Times have changed since the release of the original. Graphics are unchanged, and when compared with some of the more spectacular games of today like NG and SC: PT, R6: BA does not compare in the slightest. No doubt it'll receive huge hits from that alone. As for the gameplay, it's essentially the same, so it'll get more dings for that. It's nothing original, rehash of the old. What it will get marks for are new multiplayer modes and XBL 3.0 features. However, that'll hardly outweight the bad in a typical reviewers eyes. From the general opinions that I've gathered, most believe R6: BA to be nothing more than an expansion pack. No doubt we will see a lot of scores UNDER the 8.0 mark.

[Porphyria Plan]

Electronic Gaming gave it an overall 7.9 also. They summerized it by saying that if your are not a avid fan of RB63 you want really be thrilled by the few new maps and modes that RB62:BA has to offer. Well, I'm an avid fan.


From the general opinions that I've gathered, most believe R6: BA to be nothing more than an expansion pack.


Exactly what I have read.

[Moefugger]

here here. it'll be a 9.5 in my book.

[Anonymous]

Electronic Gaming gave it an overall 7.9 also. They summerized it by saying that if your are not a avid fan of RB63 you want really be thrilled by the few new maps and modes that RB62:BA has to offer. Well, I'm an avid fan.

Yeah, basically. If you didn't like the original, don't bother with BA. However, if you LOVED R6 then there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be getting R6: BA. Despite its age, R6 is still the #1 XBL game.

[Anonymous]

It shouldn't even be treated like a real game. The developers said that it was an expansion and they weren't really doing anything new, just touch ups here touch ups there. I watched a dev interview and he repeatedly referred to it as an expansion. I mean, isn't that why its selling new for 39.99?

People shouldn't review this game like its supposed to be part 2, because its not. Its not really even supposed to be 1.5. Its just more multiplayer maps and a few new game modes, I mean thats all we wanted anyway...

[soul embrace]

wtf? Didn't they give Rainbow Six 3 a better rating then that? How could that be?

just so you will know rb6:3 got a 9.2 by oxm.

[Anonymous]

It shouldn't even be treated like a real game. The developers said that it was an expansion and they weren't really doing anything new, just touch ups here touch ups there. I watched a dev interview and he repeatedly referred to it as an expansion. I mean, isn't that why its selling new for 39.99?

People shouldn't review this game like its supposed to be part 2, because its not. Its not really even supposed to be 1.5. Its just more multiplayer maps and a few new game modes, I mean thats all we wanted anyway...

If it's just an expansion, then $40 is way overpriced. It should be in the $20 to $30 range ($30 max). I have also never heard of it advertised by Ubisoft as an expansion myself, but then again I don't pay too much attention to it.

EDIT:
R6: BA also has a whole new single player I believe. If that's the case how can it be viewed as an expansion? A true expansion would have the same single player, but new online modes, maps, weapons, and a few extra single player missions. If the case is that it has a totally new single player campaign, then it will definitely be reviewed as a part 2, just like SC: PT was.

[Anonymous]

That is the case with PC expansion packs, but for a console it's a little different.

The single player game only has 10 missions. I agree it is over priced for an expansion, but thats still what it is. SC PT was never called an expansion but it is often refered to as 1.5 because it isn't a full sequel. Splinter Cell 3 is going to be the true sequel. However, Black Arrow falls somewhere in between the first game and a 1.5 sequel, thus the Expansion title.

With only an 8 gb hard drive it wouldn't make sense for them to release patches for games that were downloaded to the harddrive, thus it has to get the official treatment of a full game and be marketed as a full game, when in fact it is not. Hopefully in the future something will happen where expansions for consoles are closer to their PC brethren.

[Anonymous]

That is the case with PC expansion packs, but for a console it's a little different.

The single player game only has 10 missions. I agree it is over priced for an expansion, but thats still what it is. SC PT was never called an expansion but it is often refered to as 1.5 because it isn't a full sequel. Splinter Cell 3 is going to be the true sequel. However, Black Arrow falls somewhere in between the first game and a 1.5 sequel, thus the Expansion title.

With only an 8 gb hard drive it wouldn't make sense for them to release patches for games that were downloaded to the harddrive, thus it has to get the official treatment of a full game and be marketed as a full game, when in fact it is not. Hopefully in the future something will happen where expansions for consoles are closer to their PC brethren.

If it has a totally new single player campaign, then IMO it's not an expansion pack. In fact, there are only a few select maps that they're keeping from R6. So in a sense, it's a whole new MP experience as well.

[Anonymous]

New maps. New game modes. Glitches fixed. New weapons. New Live 3.0 functions. Still get to have fun with other AGErs. All that's worth $39.99 to me. :smt003

[The Empty Way]

I just got my OXM and they are not the only one giving BA a rating around 8.The primary complaint is that of a lackluster singleplayer game. But they gave the multiplayer aspects with new game types such as Retrieval and the full implementation of MS's "Tsunamie" (Live 3.0) extreme kudos. They said something to this effect (the mag is over on the counter and I am too bushed to go get it.. lol), "In the singleplayer gameyou want to say.. are we there yet? But the multiplayer game makes you want to say... keep going!"

Granted, I would like to have a decent singleplayer game to add to the value, but in a game like Rainbow Six 3, well... all of us here are here because of online multiplayer gaming... right??? Yeah!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Exactly. I'm buying this game only for the multi player experience. Any SP is a bonus.

[NEFARIOC]

Wasn't GR island thunder considered an expansion pack? It had a new single player as well.....and started at 40$.

[Anonymous]

Not sure about the SP in GR: IT, I never played it. I do know that it was a collection of 2 or 3 (not sure) expansions that were ported from the PC version.

[Dean O]

Wasn't GR island thunder considered an expansion pack? It had a new single player as well.....and started at 40$.
Yes it was.

No matter what you call it RB63:BA will be tops in my book. If it doesn't have the latest bells in whistles some reviewers will ne miffed but for me gameplay is where it's at. Hell I still have a blast shooting it up on Ghost Recon(the original) from time to time.

[ZenReaper]

If I never had RB63, then BA can't be an expansion, right?

[cblalock]

If I never had RB63, then BA can't be an expansion, right?
Not sure I understand the question, but if you're asking if you have to have the first one to play BA - then the answer is no. While it is considered an expansion, each is a stand alone game.

[Anonymous]

Yeah. Its an expansion in Console terms, which really means its basically a stand alone application.

[Circ]

If it has a totally new single player campaign, then IMO it's not an expansion pack. In fact, there are only a few select maps that they're keeping from R6. So in a sense, it's a whole new MP experience as well.

Yeah, I'm with you on that. The additions of Lone Rush, and the two new MP modes, along with all the new maps makes it essentially a new game, but just barely. It's still going to feel the same and will essntially be the same, but freshened up. So, I think the $40 is the right price (sorta new, sorta expansion).

I'll buy it just to play games without open leaners. And I've got wood over the CTF style game they added. :smt112

Also, I bought RS3 for $20 and have gotten well more than in worth out of it, so this $40 purchase is nice and easy to justify.

[Moefugger]

you can call is chicken shit on a stick, expansion, implosion...whatever. I'm buying it for the multiplayer portion of the game. period. I think i played all of 2 missions offline, and maybe a few more with folks online. It's all about the MP for me.

[Vampire 33]

It's all about the MP for me.<u>M</u>ale <u>P</u>rostitutes? :smt003